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  I debated with my "devout" JW mom and her JW elders for 5 hours

  by booker-t in

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  as most of you know by now i have told you that my mom has been a "devout" jw for over 40 years and i can't get her to budge.

  well the last time we debated she left me totally confused and in a daze.

  i did some fast research and this past sunday we had a free-for-all debate that lasted 5 hours.

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  It's only natural for a son to want to protect his mother. You did what you had to do. You did your best. You know what's real and what isn't.

  ((hug))

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  Newbie

  by Confusedgirl in

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  well i finally have stopped to say hello.

  i have been searching this site for a few months now and finding some interesting information, for now i am still a jw, confused as ever, feeling like my life is going to end and jehovah will take all the good in my life away by joining this forum.

  i have so many concerns and as you all know have no one to talk to.

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  Welcome!! Make yourself at home...enjoy the site & feel free to ask away!! You'll get lots of help & support here!

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  Yet Another Newbie Here

  by adelmaal in

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  i am so glad to have found this site .

  i was not raised a jehovah's witness.

  i studied as a teenager with my boyfriend's sister.

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  Jez...you and our Newbie Adelmaal give me great hope with my 4 year old. I'm doing exactly the same thing...in the capacity a 4 year old can handle. We go to church, he will have both sides and when the time comes to when he can truely understand, I plan to have the same strategy you both are having with your kids. Right now he understands it's ok to have birthdays (having just celebrated his 4th) and Christmas, etc. I play it gentle with him now, but let him understand that people are different, and that his dad believes differently and that's ok. So far so good.

  Thanks!

  SK
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  Yet Another Newbie Here

  by adelmaal in

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  i am so glad to have found this site .

  i was not raised a jehovah's witness.

  i studied as a teenager with my boyfriend's sister.

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  It's drama when she wants to celebrate holidays, salute the flag, have worldly friends, etc. at school and when she is with us and yet she will get in trouble for doing those things when her dad or his family (he's 33 and still lives with them) finds out. She is too young to take a stand over there because she will get in trouble, get lectured and be made to feel bad. So I think she just tries to lead a double life and lie to them about it. So then they think we are forcing her to do things that bother her conscience. It's drama! It's not right and they expect everyone else to bow to their way of doing things while they are completely intolerant of any other way of doing things. They always play the "it means her everlasting life" card. Can you tell I'm frustrated... My daughter is being pulled in two different directions and I just keep telling her that her dad's house and our house are different. We have different beliefs. It is good to be exposed to different ways of doing things and when you are old enough you will decide how you want to do things in your house. I let her know we love and support her decisions and we will accept her no matter what she decides. I let her know she is not allowed to get baptized until she is 18 though because she is not old enough to decide how she wants to live the rest of her life. I know her dad and his family have an altogether different view though and they tell her she will die or she will displease Jehovah if she doesn't do things there way. I just don't quite know how to deal with such powerful arguments and daily teachings...

  WOW...we are in the same boat!! That's almost word for word what I put in my last letter to my ex. I'm not a JW but we have a son, and my ex got back into the "fold" after we split. (he was born & raised) He does the same thing with my son, (who's only 4) but look what I get to look forward to when it comes time for school! Not only that, but he too, lives at home with his parents, his new wife & new son!! I'm here for you if you want to PM me, maybe we could share support for our kids!! On that note, do you have a lawyer?? Check with him/her & find out what your options are. Mine has told me that forcing the beliefs on the kid is not right and you might be able to revisit the 50/50 thing, which is where we are headed. Just a thought!

  Welcome to the forum!! Glad you're here!

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  I am new and scared

  by franki in

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  i am terrified to be writing this because i am officially being bad.

  i am talking with other "sinners".

  i do not want to be a witness.

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  Welcome Franki...that first step is a doozy but you'll find lots of support & information here. You're not being bad, you're being human, and no one has the right to take that away from you.

  I'm not a JW either...but I can relate to most of your fears.

  Stick around & enjoy yourself!

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  Why English Food/Beer is better.........Meat Pudding Tales.

  by ScoobySnax in

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  steak and kidney meat pudding....... beefsteak cubed with kidney, wrapped in a suet dough with gravy and placed in a pudiing and boiled in a cloth tied at the top for 2-3 hours depending on size (be sure to top up the boiling water) .when done, undo the cloth and slice the pudding.

  add english mustard (not that french crap) salt, pepper, and a dash of worcester sauce.

  serve with new potatoes and mushy peas.

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  mmm steak & kidney pies...yorkshire puds....stovers.....beans on toast....fish & chips....mince & tatties...mmmm

  I'm hungry...

  Never did get the taste for black pudding or haggis.....

  SK
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  Is Valentine's Day Overrated?

  by Swan in

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  my husband says it isn't a real holiday.

  he says when he was young it was about trading valentines (cards); not about gifts.

  halloween is a major holiday, but not a day off.

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  Maybe that is why the JWs just renounce all holidays except for the Memorial, Thanksgiving, and Superbowl Sunday. It's easier to understand what's expected when you just have a few.

  The reasons they renounce such things are why you are here today. It's good to know that you can celebrate whatever you want, that you have that choice!! You may not agree with the commercialism of Christmas or Easter, but hey, you can choose to celebrate it or not! I personally am fed up with rushing at Christmas each year, but I couldn't imagine being told I could not celebrate it. Birthdays are for my kids, I enjoy watching others when they receive gifts from me. Again, it's a matter of choice and aren't you glad you have one and can celebrate whatever you want the way you want??

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  THE GRAMMYS

  by betty boop in

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  i semi-enjoyed the show, although ive seen better in the past.

  i loved alicia keys performance.

  i think she is very talented and a true artist.

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  It was pretty clear during the JLo/Marc Anthony thing who had the better handle on the spanish language. It was also pretty clear who could sing & who couldn't. Never thought she could. I enjoyed the opening act the best. I missed Melissa Etheridge (Desperate Housewives was on hey!!) but I do enjoy her music. I heard she did wonderful...and she's got the Janis Joplin down!
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  Is Valentine's Day Overrated?

  by Swan in

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  my husband says it isn't a real holiday.

  he says when he was young it was about trading valentines (cards); not about gifts.

  halloween is a major holiday, but not a day off.

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  Seeking Knowledge

  I wouldn't consider Valentine's day or Halloween a "holiday" per se...but it's fun to get stuff none the less. This year I got flowers from a friend of mine and I sent her flowers as her beau was out of town & not likely to remember. I think it's nice to get something, a card, flowers even a bit of chocolate just so you know someone is thinking of you. Of course, it's good to get them all throughout the year as well.

  I'd consider the major ones Christmas, Easter & Thanksgiving....the rest are minor IMO...oh and birthdays, they are always major, but mostly for the kids!! I'm not inclined to celebrate those for me much these days!
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  Corey Feldman Subpoenaed in Jackson Case

  by kaykay_mp in

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  http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050211/ap_en_mu/michael_jackson_45

  by tim molloy, associated press writer

  los angeles - actor corey feldman (news), who says in an interview airing this week that michael jackson (news) showed him nude pictures when feldman was in his early teens, was subpoenaed by prosecutors in the singer's molestation case, the actor's manager said thursday.

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  I would think that he would have said something the first time around if that was more than "no big deal" Especially if he had nothing to gain from it.

  We're not going to hear any of the good stuff about MJ....that doesn't sell the news.